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Posted by CG (UK) on Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 13:03
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So, after all, the bike has been broken up - or maybe just the Red bits???
After everyone's recollections posted here perhaps this thread has run out of steam.
A shame that such a memorable bike has to go, so I'm hoping that the core components - engine and frame -
remained together to create another memorable beast.
A truly unique machine even if the colour scheme is not to everyone's taste.
If Captain Black is a regular visitor to TOL, perhaps he can fill us in as to Captain Scarlets demise?
Or did the Mysterons steal it away for it to return another day?
Thanks everyone for their contributions (so far), and to you Kim for making me draw breath when I clicked on TOL the other day :-)
Best regards
Chris.
RE: Red Star alan lindsay (AU) on Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 15:07
Hi all,
so, other than it's rosy hue what is makes this bike sufficiently special to occupy the front cover of a bike mag and the mast head position of TOL. Is it it's specifications, provenience or history perhaps?. I can see the obvious, 150 engine, duplex frame,160 tank, an exhaust that subscribes to the theory that too much is barely enough and of course, a colour that would have Lenin stirring in his mausoleum, those waxy narrow lips starting to hum the International.
Not sure it's to my taste but then again I own a T 140 with original 'poo & wee' colour scheme (brown and gold with brown seat) which I imagine many others wouldn't warm to but I think looks pretty sharp
regards al
RE: Red Star bonnevillexx (NL) on Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 08:47
Blessed are the colour blind.....
RE: Red Star DVT (UK) on Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 02:46
I suspect that it no longer exists in this configuration. Some months ago I saw what appeared to be some of its components offered for sale. Hope I'm wrong!
RE: Red Star YK55 (UK) on Thursday, October 2, 2014 at 12:15
I'm fairly sure it has been broken up. I saw it 2 years ago and the owner was going to break it (he sells quite a lot of T150 stuff on ebay.) The tank and wheels were definitely listed on Ebay not long after I saw it.
RE: Red Star mark triton (UK) on Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 00:40
I sold Captain scarlet approximately two years ago after owning the beast for four years it's now in the midlands near Richard Darby the fellow who bought it said he new Darbs well HTH Mark
Hi Mark
I found this pic on the net somewhere, and remember seeing the Bike at Battlesbridge some years ago.
Stunning looks.
I do recall you sold it on, just wondered if it was still in one piece, and where it went.
After Kim's re-arrangement of TOL's front page - I think I'm the one who's Captain Scarlet now :-)
Cheers Kim !!
RE: Red Star mark triton (UK) on Thursday, October 2, 2014 at 00:19
CG That picture was taken by me in my garden and I am a member of the Battlesbridge museum volenteers I used to ride it there on Sundays the wheels were one offs according to the magazine articles but can't remember who made them as I gave the new owner the copies of the mag with the bike when I sold it, it was very loud in look's and on the road but it flew like no other Trident aah fond memories eh! . Mark
Hi Mark
As it performed like * off a shovel, what is your recollection of its internals?
regards
Chris.
RE: Red Star Phil Pick (UK) on Thursday, October 2, 2014 at 01:21
Hi Mark. From dealings I had with Reg (can't remember his surname, it'll be in my old business records somewhere) when he built the bike the wheels were from the supplier 'Campbells Geometrics'. Reg and the owner (and founder) of that business were quite close 'on the ground', and became business freinds, I believe. John Campbell? I seem to remember Dartford, Kent, as a location.
Campbells Exhausts is still in business. www.campbellcustom.co.uk I wouldn't know if the business is still in the hands of the original owner.
Anyway - for a while Campbells Geometrics (as they were known then) were offering aftermarket wheels.
hth
Philip
Was the name Reg gave to the bike, when he assembled it. That memory had just come to me.
Philip
Hi Phillip,
Was Reg a Tubby Cockney Geezer? as I seem to remember him and the bike at a TR3OC meet many years ago at Staplehurst (Cross at Hand) in Kent, and I seem to remember the Purists/Anoraks turned their noses up at the bike!
Clive.
Yes, that'll be Reg Miller.............
Philip
Well remembered. I've just found my copy of the magazine and the bike was built by Reg Miller. According to the article the bike was originally a 1975 T150V and the colour scheme evolved from just a red seat. The wheels were (are?) prototypes named Renegades, made by John Campbell and intended to be a replacement for the Campbray wheels - with which we are familiar. Only one pair were cast. Reg Miller did some welding for John Campbell and when he acquired the wheels he was given drawings of the Cambray hubs which enabled him to fit them to the Trident. The wheels were 18" for a greater choice of tyres. The swinging arm is a stainless item from JMC. AP brake hydraulics. A North frame was considered but the bike was built like this (street drag style) after the North frame was costed out. Very many changes from standard.
The engine was a Norman Hyde tuned 1000cc conversion but used the 82mm stroked crank with standard muffs bored out and re-linered (to give 850cc with a standard crankshaft). The engine was made to be a "cheater" in classic sidecar racing but had never been fired-up when Reg Miller bought it for a fraction of the build cost. NH reckoned that it was good for 85-90bhp. The exhaust pipework was by John Campbell but the megaphone was inspired by an AJS 7R seen at the NMM.
Thanks were given to Rob & Rod (machining), the TR3OC (for being so good), Phil Pick (for providing bits at all hours) and Little Steve for the use of his garage.
Ah yes, more of the words of the article (last read long ago) have been brought back to memory by your post, DVT! Thanks. Yes, it was fun to be involved at the time. Many a craic had late at night in the 'Development Shop' (Pub....)
Cheers!
Philip
RE: Red Star Trident73 (US) on Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 06:25
Curious about those rims. Anybody know what make /
keith
RE: Red Star Triple Pete (UK) on Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 23:26
Mark Woodland
Sold it about 12/18 months ago, gone to the midlands I think, I will see him later, he might have details on new owner??
pete
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