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Posted by darbs (UK) on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 at 00:50 - in reply to: clutch adjuster nut,20 thou ??? posted by GRUFF on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 23:38
As has been discussed a thousand times before, and will no doubt be discussed a thousand times again, put a washer over the boss on the rear of the large adjuster nut so that it runs on the inner race of the bearing (in the lift arm). Then virtually zero tolerance can be used because the pull rod will be turning in both bearings. Also, virtually zero free play in cable. Instant clutch that works correctly and with a good cable is smooth in operation. This was how all the works' race bikes were set up, all the Slippery Sam replicas and Legends, and how I set up all my own and customer bikes. The washer that just happens to be of the right size is that from the rocker shaft (one at either end of each rocker arm). One or two may be required dependant upon the "lift arm".
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The small bearing in the lift arm isn't spec'ed for the 800lb or so load of the clutch. Having just checked it should cope with 500-600lbs, which still menas it is under specified to lift the clutch. It may well have worked OK on the race bikes but its unlikly to last all that long in a road application.
DD
250,000 miles okay which is what my T150 has done, and 35,000 on my X75 ? Also Doug Hele checked it out with the bearing manufacturers who stated that because it was not a constant load, only loading when operating the clutch, then it was acceptable.
I would not call using 800lbs on a 500/600 lbs rating bearing a gross overload.
Bear (pun intended) in mind two things:
a) There is always a safety margin in setting load limits in engineering. Typically I would expect a safety margin of 100% on a bearing such as this meaning it will take 1000-1200 lbs without catastrophic failure.
b) As long as the bearing is within its catastrophic failure mode limit it is just a case of load vs life--assuming all other things (lubrication etc) are equal. Bearing (another pun--sorry!) in mind that bearing lives are measured in terms of tens of thousands of hours then I can well understand that these bearings will last for as long as we want in our clutch application.IMHO they will probably outlive us. Any more than that is I suggest overkill.
As always good engineering is about things that work in practice even if the theory points towards them being a bit questionable.
HTH
Bearing in mind of course that the little fellow being discussed is very cheap and very easy to replace. As long as it doesnt fail all at once it is of small worry. Compared it to a rear tire, how much does it cost how often must you attend to it?
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